How Amazon gave Whrrl’s founder his startup inspiration

Jeff Holden

Jeff Holden

Jeff Holden might be an entrepreneur, but he has a big company to thank for his startup inspiration. It was during his 8 years working in Amazon.com’s Consumer Websites division that he became interested in the discovery experience, including the ‘people who bought X also bought Y’ feature. “One thing I was very focused on at Amazon was discovery,” he says. “Enabling customers to not only find things they are explicitly looking for, but serendipitously bump into compelling items they would never have known to look for.”

This kind of recommendation and discovery experience was only possible because of detailed data about the things people interacted with, for example the items they clicked on when they searched or the items they actually purchased – this data is referred to as a “clickstream.” Holden realized in 2005/2006 that there was no equivalent to a clickstream in the physical world – no way to say “people who go to this place X also go to place Y.” “Given the amount of value that has been unlocked on the Web utilizing clickstreams, from Google’s search relevancy ranking algorithm to keyword-based advertising to personalization technology, it made sense to me that huge amounts of value could similarly be found by enabling the real-world equivalent of clickstreams,” he says. “My belief was and is that we can fundamentally improve the way people interact with the physical world around them and increase the possibility of adventure and human connection.” He started Whrrl as a way to create real-life clickstreams, or what they call “footstreams.”

Whrrl is a social location-based game with a simple end goal: to get people out into the world trying new things. Users join Societies, which are interest groups around different topics, and earn Influence Points as they share their adventures and inspire others to try new things. The more points a user has the more Society Rewards they receive from merchants and brand partners. Users can link their profile to Facebook and Twitter, and can interact via the mobile site or through their free iPhone application.

Starting Whrrl four years ago was certainly a challenge. “In 2006, the idea of a footstream seemed ludicrous to pretty much everyone I talked to,” he says. “Of course, today, place-based social networking makes sense to most people, but four years makes a ton of difference in the world of technology.” He had to get people excited about the vision to recruit and raise money, and found people to work with on both fronts (the company is now backed by investors including Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, Bezos Expeditions, T-Venture, Trilogy Equity Partners and Reliance Technology Ventures). But the challenge of getting people behind his vision was “frankly easy” compared to the challenges found in the mobile ecosystem of the time. “Prior to the iPhone and App Store, getting a consumer product to market was an extremely high-risk and very expensive endeavor,” he says. “You worked with wireless carriers and ultimately had to have a contractual deal with them to make your product available to end users.” He says that just getting their attention was hard, let alone getting their approval – and on top of that once a deal was done you had to build your product for very limited and fragmented handsets. “You often couldn’t utilize all the various capabilities, like location technology, because the economics just didn’t make sense,” he says. “It took literally years from the first contact at the carrier to the product showing up on ‘the deck.’” Lucky for Holden and his team they were able to last into the iPhone era, and the game completely changed.

Holden has learned a lot along the way, and has four key pieces of advice for anyone just starting out. First, he says to use a minimum-viable-product methodology to get to market quickly. “That said, the ‘viable’ piece is critical -you have to create tangible and meaningful value for your customers with whatever you launch,” he says. Second, he advises being very experimental and analytical so you quickly learn what is working and what is not and can then rapidly iterate to double down on what is working and lock in the value. He also advises entrepreneurs to be frugal. “Spend money on things that truly matter and be hard core about not spending on anything else.” Finally, hire stars – people who make you better, people who you want to work with for a very long time. “You won’t win with mediocre people.”

Holden always comes back to the importance of execution, and says that while many startups have brilliant ideas, not many execute on them. “Execution in a startup is much more of an art form than in a big company, since everything is on a shoestring budget and there isn’t an army of people to assign to every little task,” he says. “Lots of startups get some set of ideas to the one-yard line, but never into the end zone. Their vision is not sufficiently realized that meaningful value is created and so they never get the momentum to build something important.”

It’s easy to see that the Whrrl team is committed to executing on their ideas – they released the latest version of their iPhone app in the spring, and recently announced their Society Rewards program in Las Vegas. Holden told GigaOM in August that the Whrrl iPhone app has 350,000 users and is adding 2,000 to 3,000 new users per day, on par with fellow location-based app Gowalla. Holden’s idea, once thought of as ludicrous, is now entering the mainstream – which isn’t a bad place for an entrepreneur to be.

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Celebrity expert sessions: Paul Kedrosky and Hiten Shah

Last week we introduced one-time celebrity expert Q&A sessions on our Sprouter Answers site. Prolific investor David Hornik and Mint.com founder Aaron Patzer answered questions about securing funding, growing your userbase, and going from idea to reality.

You can browse through their full Q&A sessions at Ask.Sprouter.com/davidhornik and Ask.Sprouter.com/apatzer.

We’re excited to announce this week’s celebrity expert Q&A sessions – Paul Kedrosky, investor, entrepreneur and Kauffman Foundation senior fellow; and Hiten Shah, serial entrepreneur and founder of KISSMetrics.

See below for their bios & session times – sign up to be notified at Ask.Sprouter.com/experts.

Paul KedroskyAsk.Sprouter.com/pkedrosky

Live Answers session: Tuesday, August 30th at 2:30pm EST. Sign up to be notified here.

Paul Kedrosky

Paul Kedrosky

Paul’s Bio:

Dr. Kedrosky is an investor, writer, and entrepreneur. He is a sought-after speaker; an analyst for CNBC television; a columnist for TheStreet/RealMoney; and the editor of Infectious Greed, one of the best known business blogs. He is frequently quoted in major publications around the world.

Dr. Kedrosky is currently a Senior Fellow at the Kauffman Foundation, where he is focused on entrepreneurship, innovation, and the future of risk capital. He is also Senior Research Advisor to Ten Asset Management, a southern California institutional money management firm using innovative quantitative techniques in capital markets. He is also a fellow and on the advisory board of the Berkeley Center for Innovative Financial Technology. He is an advisor to various other companies, institutional investors, and venture capital firms.

Hiten ShahAsk.Sprouter.com/hiten

Live Answers session: Thursday, September 2nd at 11am EST. Sign up to be notified here.

Hiten Shah

Hiten Shah

Hiten’s Bio:

HIten has started 3 companies, ACSCrazy Egg &KISSmetrics. He enjoys advising startups about metrics, product & marketing. He has online marketing expertise involving search engine marketing, buzz / viral marketing, metrics and community building. You can find out more about him on his blog.

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The lessons entrepreneurs can learn from white water rafting

Have you ever looked at someone’s website or online profile and wished you knew more about them? Not more in terms of their background or accomplishments, but their personality? Shahar Solomianik and his co-founder Udi Oz had that same thought when they were working on their first startup, Triond. They wanted to know what their users were like in reality, and wished that instead of profile pictures users had profile videos. They built VanityVid to make this a reality – people can now use a VanityVid on their blog, social networks or wherever their image appears online (learn more about the company’s co-founders by watching their VanityVids). The Tel Aviv-based entrepreneur spoke with us about how building a second business felt like a sudden downgrade, and the lessons entrepreneurs can take from white water rafting.

Sprouter: Where did your journey as an entrepreneur begin?

Shahar Solomianik: Although I was trading computer games at age fourteen, and was CTO at a web startup in the first bubble ten years later (1999-2001), I believe the entrepreneur spirit really hit me while I was backpacking in Australia in 2002. At some point I ran out of money, and I had to decide whether to fly back home or try to get a “tourist job”. I did neither. Instead, I used my last pennies to buy some materials and started crafting juggling items — devil sticks, pois and whatnot. I then started selling them from a “mobile booth” (essentially a laundry rack) on the Melbourne Esplanade and in festivals around town. I will never forget my first sale and how shaky my hands were when I took the notes from my first customer ever. For the first time in my life I was actually making my own living, and people were actually enjoying and using stuff that I made. That changed my perspective about what I wanted to do with my life.

S: Tell us about how you got the idea for Vanityvid and how you started it.

SS: Before Vanityvid, our founding team had (still has) Triond, which started five years ago, raised VC money et al, and is now a profitable company. We were browsing through some of Triond’s user profiles one day, when Udi noted that we can look at users’ pics and read what they write but we can’t actually get to know what they’re like in reality. He said he wished that in place of profile pics, there would be profile videos. That’s how it all started.The first instinct was to make it as a feature for Triond, but then we realized we had a much broader vision for it. Vanityvid is relevant to the entire web.

S: What were your biggest challenges starting Vanityvid?

SS: This may sound weird but, as I said, we’re second-time entrepreneurs. After working with Triond’s 200K users and 20M monthly page views, our biggest challenge turned out to be adjusting back to working small-scale. No users, no traffic, no investors, no clear business model, not even a clear product and let alone possible implementations. In comparison to what what we had gotten used to, it was like a sudden downgrade, We always have to remind ourselves that we’re an early-stage startup again.

S: What are the top 3 tips you’d give to early-stage entrepreneurs?

SS: Keep your eyes on the current and don’t look at the rocks. That’s taken from white water rafting. Have you ever done that? If you have, you’ve been probably been told by your instructor that along the river you’ll notice a lot of rocks. Smashing into these rocks is very risky and painful. Yet, the trick is not to look at the rocks. Since the raft will go in the same direction as your line of sight, you need to keep focused on the current. That’s very relevant to startup life as well.

Help other entrepreneurs whenever you can. I’m not suggesting that you should spend a lot of time helping every person who reaches out, or start volunteering at other startups. Still, try to do what you can. Use other people’s services and provide feedback, install widgets on your blog or website, whatever. You achieve two things by doing so: you open your mind to other ideas and markets and you can never tell how that’s going to end up. Also, you never know when other entrepreneurs might end up helping you out. It’s karmic.

Have a solid answer to the question, “Why?”. See, you’re often dealing with what you’re currently doing, how you’re doing it, and where you’re taking things from here. However, the most important question is why you’re doing it. Having a solid answer to the why question will keep you strong in tough times.

S: What do you think can be a game-changer for an early-stage startup?

SS: Making your first sale. Even if what you’ve just sold is not what you’re going to be selling in the future, your company has just changed status – from looking for business, to validating a business.

S: What’s coming up at Vanityvid?

SS: Though Vanityvid runs on top of Facebook and Twitter with a browser add-on, and on top of Wordpress with a plugin, we’ve made it very easy to integrate Vanityvid into any online service that has a user base. And we’re now starting at the search for our first early adopters partners. So that’s where we’re headed next. Having said that, if you’re an entrepreneur that runs an online service with a user base, and you wish to enhance your service’s social features and online identities, contact me – I think I have the right thing for you.

Connect with Shahar now on Sprouter at @shaharsol.

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